Please respond to one of these questions. Use complete sentences to explain your thoughts using details from chapters 1-5 of Island of the Blue Dolphins. Please make connections to your own experience, knowledge or other stories. In addition to your own response, you must provide a thoughtful comment furthering the discussion posted by a classmate. Please refer to the prompt you are replying to specifically so we can follow the discussion.
--Perhaps if Karana's father, the chief of Ghalas-at had allowed his people to mix with the hunters and be more friendly there would not have been any killing. What do you think?
--Do you think the Russians entered the harbor knowing in advance they would steal otter and murder the villagers? Why do you think so?
--Do you think the slaughter of her people could have been avoided if Karana's father had simply refused to let the Russians hunt the sea otter in the beginning?
Remember to use complete sentences, proofread your work, and use only your initials to identify your posts.
I do think the Russian planned to steel the otter and murder the villagers, because I think they were lying about the fair trade. The Russians were never trusted by the Indians. They probably decided to kill the chief so they wouldn't have to fight with him, and it was a better chance to steel the otter pelts.
ReplyDeleteBy I.A.R.
I think that if Karana's father had simply refused to let the Russians hunt the sea otter in the beginning, there would be no killing because the Aleuts and the Russians would not be there to kill anybody. Karana's father wouldn't have to give up his secret name and its magic, and he and the villagers wouldn't have died in the Aleut and Russians' war.
ReplyDeleteZSP
I.A.R., I think you are right about that the Russian were never trusted by the Indians and were planning to murder the other villagers including Karana's father. By the way, great job on your comment.
ReplyDeleteZSP
I think that the Russians knew that they would steal the otter and kill the villeragers
ReplyDeletebecause they all ready had their sords shrapened,
and they killed lot's of otter each day.Also, they only had a few necklesses in the trunk,
and the cheif wasn't vary pleased.The whole tribe didn't like or trust the Russians and that's why he got killed.
By T.A.H
If Karana's father, the chief of Ghalst-at, had allowed his people to be friendly to the hunters, I think there would not have been a fight. They could have had a friendly meeting instead of acting like enemies. It is like a story I read where a girl was mean to another girl and they become enemies.
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I do not think the slaughter of the villigers could have been avoided if Karanas father had refused to let the Aleuts hunt otter becuase I think they would get angery and kill the villigers. this reminds me of another book where somebody tricks another person and starts a war. S.Z.A
ReplyDeleteE.W,I think you are right about how if the cheif had let his people be freindly with the Aleuts there would not have been a fight. S.Z.A
ReplyDeleteI think that the Russians did not plan to steal otter and murder the villagers. However, when the villagers did not share their bass it made the Russians mad and when the villagers wanted more treasure the Russians did not want to share. So, the Russians stole the otter and murdered the villagers out of anger. I think this relates to the story "Peter and the Shadow Thieves" where a pirate makes a deal and does not keep it.
ReplyDeleteS.H.
Dear E.W.,
ReplyDeleteI agree the fight could have been prevented. Also, I found it really cool that we have both read a book about a girl that isn't nice to another girl and they became enemies. I think books about enemies are interesting don't you?
S.H.
I am writing about question #2 of ''The Islands of the Blue Dolphins'' I think that the hunters did know that they were going to fight the villagers before they arrived at the island because they wanted to get away without paying the villagers for hunting in the sea. And they did not want to give them the otters.
ReplyDeleteby AJW
To TAH, I think you are right about the Russians because they had come before and they were not very nice that time either. Good job on your comment!
ReplyDeleteby AJW
I do think that the Russians entered the harbor with the idea of stealing otter skins and murdering the villagers. I think the Russians
ReplyDeletewhere lying about the fair trade agreement because the Indians never trusted the Russians. I also think the Russians were trying to kill the villagers because the Russians want to take over the land. This situation reminded me of the book The Little House on the Prairie because pioneers fought with the Indians and were stealing their otter skins.
By KM
i think there would still be slaughter if karanas father refused to not let the Russians hunt otter
ReplyDeleteBy N.S.D
I agree with what I.A.R said in their post because I think that the Russians planned to come and steal otter pelts and murder the villagers.
ReplyDeleteBy K.M.
I think the Russians always intended to steal the otter so they would not have to pay the price. When they didn't give their fair share of the otter pelts to the villagers showed how they were not willing to play fair. (Question 2)
ReplyDeleteI think that the slaughter couldn't have been avoided because the Russians would have gotten angry that Karana's father would not allow the killing of the otters and would have still slaughtered the people.
ReplyDeleteS.G.P.A
I think it wouldn't matter if the Chief of Ghalas-at refused to let the Aluets hunt for otter because if they did they probly would have not left and tried to kill them and take over the island.
ReplyDelete-DMM
I agree with you S.H., both the hunters and the villagers were greedy they did not know how to share.
ReplyDeleteM.H.
I agree with TAH because they killed so many otters each day that they wouldn't want to pay them back so they just came to get pelts and kill the ghalas-at
ReplyDelete-DMM
Even if Karana's father, the chief of Ghalas-at, allowed his people to mix with the hunters and be friendlier there would still be killing because I think that the hunters planed to kill most of the tribe and why would they need to get a gun, if they can spend lesser money by getting a knife for hunting because the animals that live there are not fast and not big.
ReplyDeleteS.P.
I think N.S.D is right. If I remember correctly, the time the Russians came (before the events in the book) they were not very nice, right?
ReplyDeleteI think that the Russian did not intend to fight the tribe because then they would have tried to kill the tribe right away. Also the russian could have taken the island right from the beginning and the story said that the Russians did not have all their men on the island.
ReplyDeleteSC
I think if the chief of ghalas-at let his people and the hunters mix there would have been no killing because maybe the hunters could parley and find a better way than war to discuss things.Then maybe there would be no violence so no one would get hurt.I think I know how Karana felt when she saw her father die because one of my grandma's died when I was about 4 or 4 1/2 and I was really sad about it.
ReplyDeletewritten by S.N.Z
I don’t think the Russians were coming to hurt the people on the island of Ghalas’at . The reason I think this is that the first thing the Russian Captain said is "I come in peace and wish to parley." He also asked for permission to hunt for otter and to camp on their island.
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I agree with E.W because in my post I talked about the same thing.
ReplyDelete-S.Z
I think if the chief had refused and not allowed the Russians to hunt otter the Russians would still attack the tribe. They would do this because they wanted the otter pelts so if the Russians did not get what they came for they would try to take over the island and then they would resume their hunting.
ReplyDeleteS.C
Dear S.H.,
ReplyDeleteI think you are right that the Russians did not plan to fight because why fight if you don't have to since it's just plain mean and bad?
E.W.
P.S. I also think it's cool that we both read a book about two girls who were enemies.
dear, S.Z.A I agree that even if the chief said no to the Russians there would still be slaughter.Great post!
ReplyDeleteS.C
I think that if Karana's father, chief of Ghalas-at, had let his people mix and be frendlier to the hunters there wouldn't be any killing because then the hunters would be nice to the chief's people. That would make them friends. This book reminds me of a book about three dogs and a pack of coyotes who fight over food.
ReplyDeleteBy V.A.
AJW, I agree that the Russians knew that they were going to fight the villigers before they arrived.I think that because they came before and they weren't friends.
ReplyDeleteBy V.A.
I think the Russians knew they would steal the otters and murder the people. I think so because I didn't like the Russians. I did not trust the Russians. The chief should not of trusted the Russians.
ReplyDeleteI do not think the slaughter could have been avoided. If Chief Chowig said no to hunting sea otter, it would have just started a fight earlier .When Chief Chowig said not to carry the pelts onto the ship Captain Orlov killed him, so it could have just happened earlier.
ReplyDeleteBy: J.F.
I really agree with you that it would start a fight earlier. S.G.P.A.
ReplyDeleteJ.F.
I agree with sc because I would think if they didn't let the Russians catch their otter they would try and kill the tribe and take the island of the dolphin away. (P.S. My 1st comment I forgot my initials but have question 2 in parenthesis)
ReplyDeleteL.A.D
i fully agree with E.W.
ReplyDeleteZ.S.P.-I don't agree, if the Russians wanted to kill them they would've killed them right away.It didn't matter if they had an agreement.I think the indians should've stuck to the agreement.
ReplyDeleteJ.C.
I think the slaughter of her people could not have been avoided if Karana's father refused to let the Russians hunt the sea otter because the Russians were not kind to her people and the Russians probably would have hunted the sea otters anyway.
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ReplyDeleteI don't think it would have mattered if the people of Ghalas-at had been friendly to the Aleuts or not because the Aleuts were very bad, greedy people with different values!
ReplyDeleteJ.O.
November 5,2010